Saturday, June 18, 2005

extra-extra: MALT is back

weekendedition!*

Big shoutouts to Marc, the Indian scout of NYCE, who went into Starbucks this ayem and spotted THE RETURN OF MALT. The gal at the Oak Lawn Sbux sez that the much-missed malt returned THIS Monday (June 13), and is available not just in the beloved, Oprah(ugh)-endorsed "chocolate mocha malt" frappuccino but as an additive to ANY of the frappuccino drinks. (Of COURSE this info wasn't released or issued by a publicist. god forbid sbux should officially inform anyone of new prods.)

*awesome "special edition" banner provided by marc

44 Comments:

At June 18, 2005 2:57 PM, Anonymous ms. ery said...

maybe i'm missing a great treat, but two reasons to avoid starbucks: 1) not to fall into the silly we-are-what-we-drink status trap, and 2) its Wal-Mart-like labor practices. i also hate when the coffee shop "decorations" are displays of over-priced, logo-emblazoned products. I'll stay home with the latest Michael Connelly mystery and a cup of plain black coffee or maybe some jug wine.

 
At June 18, 2005 3:20 PM, Blogger Twisted Link said...

I understand point #1, though I'd never avoid a place just because somebody would think something disparaging about me. damned if i'll fall into that trap.

I don't understand point #2. Or I'm not familiar with it. How do their labor practices compare with Wal-Mart?

 
At June 18, 2005 3:53 PM, Blogger TG said...

boy, i don't get either of Ms.Ery's points. since when is starbucks a "status" drink?? doesn't everybody and his mother go there? as for the employment situation, is this like walmart: starbucks employees get at least $2/hr ABOVE minimum wage plus stock options (which perform amazingly) plus and health insurance for PART-TIME employees.

other reasons i like sbux: its sense of corporate responsibility. 10% of the profits are earmarked for charity, and the company's been praised for its promotion of "sustainability" practices so that coffee growers aren't decimating the planet.

jug wine, i like

 
At June 18, 2005 5:31 PM, Anonymous ms. ery said...

do a google search on "starbucks labor."

 
At June 18, 2005 5:41 PM, Anonymous red ennk said...

wow, tg, had you heard that the brooklyn bridge is for sale?

 
At June 18, 2005 6:24 PM, Anonymous clairevoyant said...

people at work are boycotting starbucks because "they wouldn't send coffee to the troops in Iraq." amazing how many people will believe it just because it was sent to them in an email!

 
At June 18, 2005 6:59 PM, Anonymous charlotte ruse said...

ms c:
I'd like your name so much better if you would break it into two words: claire voyant.

hadn't heard that rumor and it doesn't make much sense. how many grunts have the equipment to brew their own coffee?

anyway, i'm sort of with ms.ery on this, though i feel a bit like a hypocrite. my jeans are mostly by levi, calvin and dnyk. but mainly because target's sizes for adults stop at 6. well, maybe that's not really true. i do think some of the designer jeans are better cut, and it probably doesn't make it excusable that i buy them at a resale shop on oak lawn that benefits battered women. mea culpa.

anyway, coffee drinks are supposed to be the topic. i'd vote for vietnamese or thai iced coffee, presented with those little stainles steel gizmos that almost always stop up, til the server comes over and gives a knowing tap. the point is there is a server (you don't stand in line to order it), the drink is delicious and half or less than starbuck's price. the charm of the places is the cincher.

 
At June 18, 2005 7:07 PM, Blogger Twisted Link said...

Ok, i did a search and I find stories on the BREW-haha at the manhattan store with the semi-radical labor organizer. And then a bunch of stuff detailing sbux's leveraging its position in the market to get coffee workers better wages.

The only substatiated issues there are in the manhattan case before the Labor Board, according to the decision, are that one guy and his 13 followers want to form a union at the store and sbux argues that the entity that should be unionized is the district, not individual stores. The case is on appeal.

That's a pretty minor conflict between management and labor, isn't it? Wal-mart is far worse -- and not just for labor, but for other biz and the economy as a whole.

 
At June 18, 2005 7:25 PM, Anonymous ms. ery said...

twisted:
you're probably right. i didn't read all the material closely; guess i am lazy and certainly starbx is better than wal-mart -- tho not the humble worker's guardian angel the co.'s story would have us believe.

i like the starbucks drinks; i do not like them. my animosity is in my bones. the first time i entered one of their places, i felt they were preying on people, on their need to feel hip, and that they were putting forth a false interest in their employees and ecology (just look at the sales displays). i have only been back as work required, twice i think in like six years.

 
At June 18, 2005 7:35 PM, Anonymous red ennk said...

her comments show ms.ery to have grown up during the '50s -- a commie symphathizer and, now, bitter because the coolest brand name her generation had was swanson tv dinners/

 
At June 18, 2005 7:41 PM, Blogger emmmjay said...

Everyone's mother doesn't go to Starbuck's

 
At June 18, 2005 9:50 PM, Blogger TG said...

i've had oodles of thai coffee (delicious yes but -- $2.50 for coffee+condensed milk??) i remember having thai iced coffee at bangkok city, where, as i waited for the enjoyably ethnic server to bring it to me, a roach climbed across my table. how funky and "authentic" i felt! i chortled to myself about those sbux posers.

sbux: i was in austin for a trip where i hit the sbux @ 6th & congress 3 days in a row. on the SECOND day, the employees already knew my drink ("soy wet cap," if anyone's buyin'). that's no less personal than someone tapping your sludged-up thai. it's all what you bring into it in the first place. MY observation is that the people who call starbucks an evil manipulative corporation haven't actually spent much time there, otherwise they would know better

 
At June 18, 2005 9:55 PM, Blogger TG said...

and emmjay, i recommend that EVERYONE's mother should go to starbucks every day

 
At June 19, 2005 4:52 AM, Anonymous mary worth said...

Teresa: Your fervor and loyalty are admirable (as is your giving us a bonus weekend posting). I think ms.ery is mean to pick on you for touting Starbucks. If only my pension were bigger, I'd go there everyday.

 
At June 19, 2005 5:45 AM, Blogger emmmjay said...

"Everyone's" mother finds Stbk's coffee strong enough to walk over to the table. But I suspect it is a sure sign of old age.

 
At June 19, 2005 6:33 AM, Anonymous d.b. cooper said...

man, i just love everything about washington state

 
At June 19, 2005 7:41 AM, Anonymous jimmy hoffa said...

the new york baristas who are trying to unionize claim starbucks keeps them on short skeds, seldom more than 20 hours a week, and understaffs its stores. they want the option of full-time employment.

it's hard to exercise your stock options and live on 20 hours a week.

 
At June 19, 2005 8:33 AM, Anonymous too ignorant to order at stbx said...

what's a wet cap? i assume soy means you want the milk substitute

 
At June 19, 2005 2:48 PM, Anonymous cup of joe said...

To "too ignorant": There are several Internet site that give espresso/coffee drink terms. A good one re starbucks is www.callihan.com/seattle/coffee/htm. A caution, however: It may make you react like Dorothy Parker's Constant Reader.

Anyway, you're right that soy refers to the milk sub. Wet simply means that you don't want it foamed. In my admittedly slender understanding of all the terminology, I think TG may have been ordering a vegan latte.

And I think those Austin baristos might have got her drink of choice down quickly because, face it, how many customers do they get with blue hair?

 
At June 19, 2005 3:01 PM, Blogger TG said...

does anyone think labor unions are still a good idea? meanwhile, here's a profile of the brand new sbux CEO. gasp: he worked at walmart!

www.sptimes.com/2005/06/18/Business/ A_taste_for_concepts.shtml

 
At June 19, 2005 3:12 PM, Blogger TG said...

soy yes = soy milk. but i have no vegan goals. everyone says we gals should drink soy so i'm doing what i'm told.

wet cap is "wet cappuccino," which means more liquid and less foam than a regular cappuccino (which is about a 1/3 foam - 2/3 liquid ratio. latte has no foam at all.)

but this week the drink of choice is a mocha MALT frappuccino (which starbucks fitfully removed from the menu last year!)

 
At June 19, 2005 3:26 PM, Anonymous red ennk said...

Yes, yes, the MALT. I am salivating for one. Can you get a burger & fries to go with it?

 
At June 19, 2005 3:27 PM, Anonymous jess truhart said...

tg: as usual, your postings lead to wide=ranging discussion. nyce is a great blog.

 
At June 19, 2005 3:36 PM, Anonymous Don Cyote said...

you might want to check on your friend scott at dallasfood.org. i've been checking into the blog pretty often because i was interested in his maple ave. crawl, but he hasn't posted anything since june 13. maple is not the safest street in dallas.

 
At June 19, 2005 3:46 PM, Anonymous cup of joe said...

gads. cap and cappuccino; so obvious, i had to miss it. guess ya have to spend around 100 hours and mucho more dollars to really get sbux lingo

 
At June 19, 2005 3:52 PM, Anonymous r. perry said...

Teresa Gubbins: For your comment recognizing that labor unions are completely outdated,I am recognizing you as Texas Citizen of the Week. My close and long-time friend George also congratulates you.

 
At June 19, 2005 3:58 PM, Blogger TG said...

not to worry, cup of joe (may i call you cup?) - just follow the lead of red ennk, who may be a wee bit confused re: exactly what they serve at sbux, but who nonetheless grasps the word of the week: malt

 
At June 19, 2005 4:01 PM, Blogger TG said...

mr. perry, good to hear from you! you got a poker game going on there with j. hoffa? i remember sitting next to you at a swanky foodie event back when you were secty of agriculture. "this pretty boy's going nowhere," i said to myself. do i know how to call 'em or what

 
At June 19, 2005 4:34 PM, Blogger Twisted Link said...

Who goes to sbux to get a full-time gig for christ's sake? Construction, now that's where the money and OT is at.

TG did a maple ave. round up years ago. It's in the dmn archives somewhere. Anyway, it's not unsafe to eat there if you're worried about getting stabbed or murdered, according to the crime maps.

There's a pretty big upheaval going on in the AFL-CIO right now about how to get more members. They're pretty desperate and have been since the 50s apparently. I don't think that's just because business doesn't like unions. I think people are tired of paying dues and getting nothing in return.

 
At June 19, 2005 4:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL, exactly!

 
At June 19, 2005 5:00 PM, Blogger TG said...

twistedlink knows about that maple ave roundup cuz he was a hired gun/iron stomach. too bad he couldn'ta also used his fotog skills to get some cheezy closeups like the ones posted on dallasfood.
we didn't have any trouble on maple cuz of twistedlink's macho stare; he sent the cockroaches running for cover. (if only he'd been along for my vietnamese coffee at bangkok city.)

 
At June 19, 2005 5:05 PM, Anonymous melania t. said...

has anyvone seen my hoosband, donald?

 
At June 19, 2005 5:27 PM, Anonymous bipolar negri said...

melania: he was here a minute ago. think he ran out to get a sbux malted.

 
At June 19, 2005 5:31 PM, Anonymous mehitabel said...

on behalf of archie and his billions of relatives, i want to protest you always placing him/them in a minority restaurant. archie sez he's been to plenty of swell places, and has even followed his newspaper friends into sbx.

 
At June 19, 2005 5:34 PM, Anonymous laura said...

if god had wanted us to have more unions, he would have let kerry win last november

 
At June 20, 2005 5:43 AM, Blogger emmmjay said...

LOL great line, laura.
Unions did a great job when they were first started, but power and money corrupted (gee, whadyano!)
and they killed the steel business and the railroads and who know what else. Sad. Twisted, I think people may be wising up after seeing so many jobs disappear.

 
At June 20, 2005 10:13 AM, Anonymous jimmy hoffa said...

i'm a bit surprised by the anti-union stance of nyce contributors. also i doubt that many baristas could make it in the construction business, as suggested by twisted. last time i went in for a latte, a skinny young woman prepared it.

 
At June 20, 2005 10:24 AM, Blogger Ron said...

Starbucks' benefits package, especially for health insurance, for part-time employees should be applauded. But if you want to put it to The Man, order a Misto (grande, $2.28). It's regular coffee with steamed milk (or soy, should you be of that persuasion). You get all the panache of a branded cappuccino at half the price, along with the lovely logoed cup that might impress and influence friends, the decorative but useful slip-on corrugated holder to insulate your paw and the egonomically designed plastic cap that conforms ever-so nicely to your pie hole. You can even raid the coffee condiment bar for stir sticks and sugar (or the evil substitutes).

 
At June 20, 2005 10:33 AM, Anonymous cup of joe said...

panache is important

 
At June 20, 2005 10:48 AM, Anonymous d.b. cooper said...

is panach like a danish?

 
At June 20, 2005 10:57 AM, Blogger emmmjay said...

i think it's more like swedish

 
At June 20, 2005 11:19 AM, Anonymous polar negri said...

My great-aunt Pola had panache, and she was Polish.

 
At June 20, 2005 11:33 AM, Blogger emmmjay said...

ah, of course, we should have known!!
So Stbks is Polish! That explains everything!

 
At June 20, 2005 11:35 AM, Anonymous jess truhart said...

where is tg when we need a new subject?

 

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