Friday, June 17, 2005

McKinney: new Addison, maybe

1. Snuffer’s, the Greenville Ave. place w/ burgers and fries covered w/ cheese (ergh), is opening a branch on 75 at the southern edge of McKinney. The structure’s > halfway up, tho the website says it won’t open 'til "late fall." Other Snuffer’s are going up in Garland and Southlake (which is becoming, like, the burger capital of the world). Snuffer’s already has outlets in addison, plano, rockwall, and preston ctr.
2. Café Brazil, which is the most Austin-like entity in Dallas, is opening its 7th branch on 75 at El Dorado Pkwy. It’s been under construction for a few mths and will open in July, sez Café Brazil's Brant Wood. Recapping the other CBs: lakewood, UP, deep ellum, cedar springs, richardson, and carrollton. (What, no southlake?)

13 Comments:

At June 17, 2005 8:57 AM, Anonymous jess truhart said...

tg:
puzzled by your suggestion that mckinney is a new addison. addison got its big start due to offering alcohol when most of the north was dry. mckinney has been around a long time and always been a restaurant place. the upswing in housing has boomed the area (and how many actual residents does addison have?) only reason for your hed that i can see is that some greenville restaurants have cloned themselves in addison so snuffers could indicate a mckinney trend, too. it may be a practical one: have you tried driving across central on knox-henderson during peak hours lately?

ps: thanks for response to observer critic query. i know that dish is a big page to fill. at one time, the paper ran a second, shorter review on the page.

 
At June 17, 2005 9:32 AM, Anonymous red ennk said...

why do dallasites wish dallas was either austin or new york? doesn't anyone wish we were cleveland?

 
At June 17, 2005 9:37 AM, Anonymous polar negri said...

nuuk is a really great place, too

 
At June 17, 2005 11:24 AM, Anonymous charlotte ruse said...

Agree with the ergh on Snuffer's cheese fries. You could do your kitchen floor in that cheese.

 
At June 17, 2005 11:49 AM, Blogger TG said...

well jess you addison-savvy nitpicker, when i said "new addison" i was going for the idea that mckinney MIGHT (i said maybe) be a hot destination for dallas restaurants to expand. there just wasn't enough space for all those words, so i went w/ the shorter headline, hoping people would grasp my complex yet brilliant subtext. if one were REALLY identifying a new addison (and not just using headline shorthand), it would probably be frisco, yes?

 
At June 17, 2005 11:57 AM, Blogger david said...

a few thoughts from a restaurant-employed strategy guy...

1) why does snuffer's only work here? it bombed in college station and lubbock (okay, the construction situation in CS at the time was ludicrous), but it seems to do great here...

2) restauranteur beware of mckinney. rockwall was, four years ago, what mckinney is today. the strip in rockwall is littered with people that though rockwall needed every restaurant in preston hollow and addison. (that said, my company has looked for locations in allen and mckinney in the recent past)

3) dallas thinks it is trying to emulate nyc. in reality, it's a poor shadow of LA. LA...ick. as for CLE, have you spent much time there? Didn't watching Drew Carey teach you anything? ;-)

 
At June 17, 2005 12:31 PM, Anonymous jess truhart said...

tg
as an old timer here, i recall addison's sole reason for becoming a restaurant/bar mecca was the city wisely decided to allow alcohol, when plano, much of north dallas and carrollton didn't. isn't frisco booming because of housing and new bis there, and don't the areas around it have booze. i think mckinney is becoming Uptown II.

appreciate the difficulty of short headlines and appreciate the info you give us. just a nitpicker, i guess.

 
At June 17, 2005 12:38 PM, Anonymous jess truhart said...

tg
as ann landers used to say, i deserve upteen lashes with a wet noodle. i read mckinney as mckinney ave, and thought it was going to that quickly being overbuilt area around knox-henderson instead of the city of mckinney.

david's posting made me realize the error. in the future, I'll try to read more carefully before i leap in.

i think red was joking about cleveland, but i do hear people saying why can't we be as laid-back but have as lively a downtown as fort worth

 
At June 17, 2005 1:10 PM, Blogger TG said...

well jess, comments arn't sposed to be perfect. and what you said about addison is right on. i hear people say "frisco is the new addison" (way more than mckinney); i think it is exactly becuz of the booze deal. re: allen, i was just up there last nite, saw lots of new places going in, as david mentioned

 
At June 17, 2005 4:17 PM, Blogger Twisted Link said...

Any restaurant whose claim to fame is their cheese fries needs to rethink their food before thinking about expanding. Does Snuffer's have anything that's worth eating? It's cheap food and beer for SMU kids. There are those who have a hungover nostalgia for the place, and that's why it works in Addison. I didn't work in college station, because there's already institutionalized burger joints in place. and nothing's gonna fly in lubbock, unless it's another taco bell.

Rockwall is no comparison to Allen and McKinney. Rockwall is nowheresville, East of Dallas and surrounded by white trash, with the exception of a few people who own boats in that marina. All the growth in Dallas County is and has been to the north. If you look at a map, the only place left to go is Allen and then McKinney, which already has a population advantage.

And if Dallas is trying to be LA, then nobody there's actually been to LA.

 
At June 17, 2005 5:07 PM, Anonymous montgomery ward snopes said...

Twisted,
They may not be the McMansion subdivisions of Plano and Frisco, but there are a lot of new houses in the Forney-Sunnyvale area, which is accessible to Rockwall, and some of the new Rockwall housing isn't shabby either. Roads have been a big problem; but a lot of construction has been going on, and I think traffic is easing. There are a couple of shopping centers going in on Hwy. 80.

This is not to argue that east of Dallas is growing anywhere near as fast as the northern parts off 75, 35 and 114. The jobs aren't there, for one thing -- a really big thing, I grant you. But I think the area has appeal for people who work in Dallas and want a little space and a custom home at a pretty reasonable price. The commute downtown isn't bad either.

As to poor white trash, I know a half dozen people who've moved to the area, and they all have more money than I do.

 
At June 17, 2005 7:11 PM, Blogger Twisted Link said...

Monty:

There's a lot of new houses in south dallas, too. I don't see any new restaurants. Housing isn't the same as growth. We're talking about Rockwall FOUR YEARS ago and about retaurants from addison and preston hollow trying to start up there. You can see why those won't work around "not too shabby" residences.

And just because you have money doesn't mean you're not white trash. You should know that.

 
At June 18, 2005 3:22 PM, Blogger david said...

wow...allright for this being bash rockwall central (yes, i started it). jess is right, rockwall has been a loser to a bunch of restaurants. someday, it may be something more successful, but only if the connectors to the bush turnpike give it easy access to north dallas offices.

who ever thought that rockwall might become a haven for people trying to get out of frisco? it could happen someday...

dPG

 

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