Monday, July 25, 2005

BM on ciabatta bandwagon*

Why looky here: new samwiches from a (semi) fast-food chain, served on ciabatta bread. OH, must be Jack in the Box, since they’re the ones who originated the idea of using this oddly-named bread many people had never heard of. But no, it ain’t JITB; it’s copycatter Boston Market, who just introduced a line of carvers (how friggin pretentious - ya suppose they mean SANDWICH?) being served on CIABATTA rolls. Wow, what a clever idea. The meats include such JITB favorites as turkey and ham. BM (snicker) bites anyway, in many ways, including its use of thick to-go packaging that’s really bad for the environment.

*call it petty if you like but i can't even be bothered to put a link to the company's website

45 Comments:

At July 25, 2005 11:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JITB RULES!!

 
At July 25, 2005 11:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could swear to have seen another restaurant chain that also has sandwiches now on cibatta bread.

 
At July 25, 2005 11:52 AM, Blogger TG said...

as ALWAYS the plano guy is right

 
At July 25, 2005 11:55 AM, Blogger Scott Roche said...

heh heh, "BM", heh.

 
At July 25, 2005 12:03 PM, Blogger TG said...

hey twisted, who the hell are you calling an idiot. i'm the one that made the dumb "BM" joke in the first place. so you better be directing that "idiot" at me. if anyone should get credit for being an idiot around here, it's me

 
At July 25, 2005 12:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

such mean-spirited criticism of boston market, even with a reference to bodily functions a la mark steurtz (or whatever the last name of that dallas oberver guy is). going a whole weekend without a starbucks fix must really put you in a mood

 
At July 25, 2005 12:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i went to the web site, www.bostonmarket.com, and checked out the menu. according to it, most of the carvers (which include meatloaf) are served on white or honey wheat baguettes. i say most because the bread isn't specified for the ham carver. maybe the plano bm does things differently?

 
At July 25, 2005 1:04 PM, Blogger TG said...

hello bread baker. i'm a bread baker too. now that you mention it, i do feel like i've seen some other chains do ciabatta sandwiches; the ones i find on the internet are panera and blimpie

ms.ery, i didn't intend to be mean-spirited - just zesty (a word once used by the great ron ruggless). but i don't much like boston market

 
At July 25, 2005 1:06 PM, Blogger TG said...

curious george clearly isn't up to speed on the mission of NYCE: new products. new new new. so new they sometimes don't yet appear on the company website. ('specially a crappy company like Boston Market.)

 
At July 25, 2005 1:12 PM, Blogger Scott Roche said...

But I want to be an idiot too!!!

 
At July 25, 2005 1:13 PM, Blogger Scott Roche said...

And BM's taters and spinach are pretty good but the rest of their stuff is over priced CRAP.

 
At July 25, 2005 1:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to be called an idiot by twisted link is high praise

 
At July 25, 2005 1:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

can't believe you bypassed an opportunity to mention starbucks

 
At July 25, 2005 2:03 PM, Blogger Ron said...

ZESTY is as ZESTY does.

McDonald's Corp. bought Boston Market out of bankruptcy in 2000. Big Mac has been adding items to Boston Market's menu since. (Note the Market's recent "eat-steak-eat-steak" TV ad campaign, which I find catchy but I do so with a humiliating flood of guilt.) Ciabatta also has been a limited-time offer bread at Blimpie and was, of course, in the lip-smackingly good Pannido at NYCE's fave, JITB. (I heartily agree.)

 
At July 25, 2005 4:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JITB Sucks!

Next!

 
At July 25, 2005 5:52 PM, Blogger TG said...

what a shocking statement from dean. one wonders when dean last ate at JITB and what he ate. one wonders if dean has ever sampled JITB's salads, their pannido sandwiches, their SW chicken pita, their skin-on fries, or their real-ice-cream milkshakes

 
At July 25, 2005 6:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

tg: just read d magazine's best of dallas issue. can't believe the dessert picked. that chocolate with a molten chocolate center is a bit too much like the chocolate dessert wm. guthrie introduced more than 20 years at the quadrangle grill (which some blog visitors may remember) and that he also served a few years ago at his place downtown. besides, the nana one may have a more refined cake product and use more expensive dark chocolate, but it sits on a WHITE CHOCOLATE sauce -- and a lot of us never met any white chocolate we liked.

 
At July 25, 2005 6:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

we were talking the other day about southerners saying ice tea rather than iced tea. in a book i'm reading, the detective hero had a glass of ICE WATER and it struck me that NOBODY -- not even in the north -- says iced water. am i right?

 
At July 25, 2005 6:50 PM, Blogger TG said...

charlotte - i myself am beyond exhausted by the molten/lava cake; but i've never had the one at nana so i can't vouch for it. (while i contribute to D, i was not part of the "best-of" decisions.) i will say this: i had a lava cake at nobu which was "rejuvenated" by an accompaniment of green tea ice cream.

but my recollection of william guthrie's choc dessert was that it was less of a "molten" concept and more of a choc disc with a moist, fudgy center - not exactly the same as these cakes whose half-cooked centers ooze out when you cut them open (introduced first, i believe, by NY chef jean-georges vongerichten). when the downtown guthrie's closed, i ran up and bought 4 of those choc hockey pucks for safe-keeping, and until very recently still had one residing in my fridge until the encroaching mold demanded i pitch the thing.

 
At July 25, 2005 7:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I last had JITB many, many years ago. The first time was at the one on Mockingbird and 35 (on the way to Love Field) back in 2000. It was horrible! Everything tasted like old, fried oil (even the milkshakes). Puke.

Then maybe in 2001 or so (this time in Fort Worth), I tried it again and it fared no better. Now, JITB may have added new items, but it's too late to get me to go there as there far better places to go than JITB (IMO).

As far as the large fast food chains go (Mac's BK, KFC, Wendy's, Taco Bell, Whataburger, JITB, etc.), I don't eat at any of them.

Now, I may go to their "one step up" outlets (McDonald's owns BM for example--I lke BM, but don't eat McDonalds), but it's not because I dislike chains or corporate ownership, it's just that the food sucks. In fact,I do like Boston Market, but they stopped doing my favorite BBQ Chicken sandwich so I go there less frequently.

 
At July 25, 2005 7:19 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Jess, I've heard people ask for ICE WATER, but then I also think JITB sucks so take that for what it's worth.

 
At July 25, 2005 7:45 PM, Blogger TG said...

sigh dean is behind the times. were he to try the pannido sandwiches (w/ imported salami and black forest ham and AWESOMELY crunchy ciabatta bread), he might have a different point of view

 
At July 25, 2005 7:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

so twisted, do you non-southerners say ice water or iced water? (the compromise i would choose is water with ice). The author of the book i'm reading isn't southern; the hero lives in maine. (and could you try to come up with some slurs other than IDIOT; we're getting bored here).

 
At July 25, 2005 8:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i didn't think you had a lot of POWER in the d best list. what clued me was the oak cliff independent (as opposed to a starbucks) for coffeehouse

 
At July 25, 2005 8:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you know tereese, even when you have a BORING item, it draws lots of comments.

 
At July 25, 2005 8:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the only fast food in greenland is blubber burgers. have you ever had one? they are like awesome yum.

 
At July 25, 2005 8:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the JITB argument is one i won't JUMP into. (although i seem to remember it was in washington state that jack served the e coli burgers). correct me if i am wrong.

 
At July 25, 2005 8:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

twisted; is that d best oak cliff coffeehouse near your apartment?

 
At July 25, 2005 8:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

whoa! everyone seems to have woken up all of a sudden, including my evil twin

 
At July 25, 2005 8:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, there are two Polar Negri's. That explains it.

That Nodding Dog place in Oak Cliff isn't that great (a more polite way of saying that it sucks). I went there right after Jennifer C. did a piece in D on it. It's passable, but only because it's the only thing there. Plus it's expensive and did I mention it wasn't very good?

And I'm not a very big sandwich fan, but I did have a really good Cuban at Cuba Libre a few weeks back. Better than one in Miami in fact.

I'm off to my favorite sushi place. I'll check back later to see what new names I've been called.

 
At July 25, 2005 8:44 PM, Blogger TG said...

the bread on the new JITB ciabatta sandwiches is not true ciabatta (altho whatever it is, it's better than a friggin hamburger bun). but the bread on the pannidos definitely is ciabatta. even if it's not in the same "slipper" shape that twisted recognizes from his WF dayz

 
At July 25, 2005 9:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dean: there are NOT two polar negris. there is me, polar negri, and my crazy twin sister, bipolar negri, both grand-nieces of the great vamp of the silent screen, pola negri. she was from poland but our father migrated to greenland, hence our names. (he had a better sense of humor than twisted at least.)

 
At July 25, 2005 9:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, moron instead of idiot. twisted you are stretching your brain WAY TOO MUCH. sure, in a restaurant we just ask for water, but haven't you ever asked anyone whether they would rather have plain or ice water? some of us do sometimes favor the first, as when we're taking a pill. ALSO ON THE WATERFRONT: i am grateful when the service person asks me if i want lemon. i don't. plain water is better for the palate with most dishes, unless you're having hot dogs and going to make lemonade.

 
At July 25, 2005 9:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dean: so what is your favorite sushi place? we should all share our discoveries on nyce

 
At July 25, 2005 10:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it was hardly a discovery; it was TG who did the DMN review. Piranha Sushi in Arlington, though after tonight, I'm re-evaluating that whole "favorite" thing.

 
At July 26, 2005 1:26 AM, Blogger DPG said...

okay, gotta weigh in on the JITB deal. i gave tg the forum to go JITB crazy the other day, but i gotta admit being in dean's camp. most JITB franchisees (and esp. corporate stores) are AWFUL...dirty, bad food quality, overcooked...

plus, pandidos are delivered to the store frozen AND premade. want one without the pickles? tough, b/c they're delivered to the store that way. throw 'em in the microwave for 30 secs. and send 'em out the drive-through. yuck!

bag on Micky D's all you want, but i'll eat free-range chicken at chipotle, get a 1/4 chicken with two veggies at BM...and even stop at the hamburgler every now and then for some apples n' walnut salad.

JITB? maybe someday when the stores get redone and don't look so gross and early 80's i'll give 'em a shot again. 'till then, i'll stick to the competition.

go dean!

DPG

 
At July 26, 2005 8:04 AM, Blogger Scott Roche said...

Haven't ever been to a JITB but do they have Cookouts where you guys are? They have AWESOME shakes, burgers and fries. And my left coast 'net friends have gotten me to try In-and-Out. I had 2 double cheeseburgers at McD's on Sunday and maybe it was because I was RAVENOUS but they were some kind of good. It could also have been because I had them with a big old ICED tea (I suspect that because the "T" and the "D" are so close together that they often get lost though the ice water person makes a good point). I love me some Hardees since they were bought by CJ. I am a fast food addict (okay maybe addict is a strong word).

Oh and white chocolate is an oxymoron. True chocolate cannot be white.

 
At July 26, 2005 8:05 AM, Blogger Scott Roche said...

Wish I could edit these posts stick a "want to" in this sentence "And my left coast 'net friends have gotten me to try In-and-Out."

 
At July 26, 2005 9:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a fan. Take that Twisted!

 
At July 26, 2005 9:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what does twisted dog know about coffeehouses? he drinks from a commode

 
At July 26, 2005 9:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

twisted: i did a google search for glass of ice water: 3.8 million hits. did a search for glass of iced water: barely over 500,000 hits. majority rules!

 
At July 26, 2005 10:09 AM, Blogger Ron said...

E coli is delicious, especially iced. (I've had it, and it ain't purdy.)

 
At July 26, 2005 10:20 AM, Blogger TG said...

that whole jack in the box e coli thing is SO old news, SO 1994, and SO not-NYCE ... which is (for today) all about July 26, 2005! every day a new day, a new item, a new story! yippie

 
At July 26, 2005 2:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i don't think ms.ery was taking a survey of nyce bloggers but instead was talking about COMMON USAGE. and watch your mouth when you're talking to a lady.

 
At July 26, 2005 2:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

twisted believes his experience is representative of us all

 

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